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- Re: Any thoughts or comments on the new AZ proposed imigration laws? by voltaic on Monday May 3, 2010 @ 09:47am

Re: Any thoughts or comments on the new AZ proposed imigration laws?
Posted by Stealth on Tuesday May 4, 2010 @ 05:58am
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The bill, like all governmental writing, has shit in it it doesn't need, but the concept, at the basic level is sound. "You want in, fucking ask"

I would support such a position on immigration. However, that is not our position.

Isn't that what visa's, passport control, green cards and registered workers (in a general overview) is about? Asking for permission to enter the country and work?

"Never, never, interrupt me, okay? Not if there's a fire, not even if you hear the sound of a thud from my home, and one week later there's a smell coming from there that can only be a decaying human body and you have to hold a hanky to your face because the stench is so thick that you think you're going to faint. Even then, don't come knocking!" - Jack Nicholson


<< Re: Any thoughts or comments on the new AZ proposed imigration laws?
Posted by voltaic on Wednesday May 5, 2010 @ 09:29am
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The bill, like all governmental writing, has shit in it it doesn't need, but the concept, at the basic level is sound. "You want in, fucking ask"

I would support such a position on immigration. However, that is not our position.

Isn't that what visa's, passport control, green cards and registered workers (in a general overview) is about? Asking for permission to enter the country and work?

Nominally, sure. But what they have become is a tool by which we can tell people who can or cannot come in. So now it isn't just "fucking ask", it's "fucking ask and if we approve you, etc". That's what I object to.

"Wow... that's... ZZZzzzzz" - madarab


<< Re: Any thoughts or comments on the new AZ proposed imigration laws?
Posted by Stealth on Thursday May 6, 2010 @ 01:04pm
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The bill, like all governmental writing, has shit in it it doesn't need, but the concept, at the basic level is sound. "You want in, fucking ask"

I would support such a position on immigration. However, that is not our position.

Isn't that what visa's, passport control, green cards and registered workers (in a general overview) is about? Asking for permission to enter the country and work?

Nominally, sure. But what they have become is a tool by which we can tell people who can or cannot come in. So now it isn't just "fucking ask", it's "fucking ask and if we approve you, etc". That's what I object to.

You object to us having a set of standards/rules/requirements that people have to meet before they come to live/work in the country? You would rather the borders be open, anyone can come in, just start finding jobs and living? Or better yet, come in, not find a job and live of society?


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<< Re: Any thoughts or comments on the new AZ proposed imigration laws?
Posted by voltaic on Thursday May 6, 2010 @ 01:25pm
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You object to us having a set of standards/rules/requirements that people have to meet before they come to live/work in the country? You would rather the borders be open, anyone can come in, just start finding jobs and living? Or better yet, come in, not find a job and live of society?

Yes, yes, and yes.

"Wow... that's... ZZZzzzzz" - madarab


<< Re: Any thoughts or comments on the new AZ proposed imigration laws?
Posted by Krux on Tuesday May 4, 2010 @ 08:02am
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The bill, like all governmental writing, has shit in it it doesn't need, but the concept, at the basic level is sound. "You want in, fucking ask"

I would support such a position on immigration. However, that is not our position.

Isn't that what visa's, passport control, green cards and registered workers (in a general overview) is about? Asking for permission to enter the country and work?

Yes.

Love your country, but never trust its government.
-- Robert A. Heinlein.


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