Posted by Krux on Saturday January 15, 2011 @ 07:23pm
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how do i play like i did on stumble upon?

That requires you pay for a subscription to the Zork 404 error page MMO. It's a fully immerse world of text that brings level grinding for armor to the world of text adventures.

Posted by rub on Sunday January 16, 2011 @ 11:15am
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That requires you pay for a subscription to the Zork 404 error page MMO. It's a fully immerse world of text that brings level grinding for armor to the world of text adventures.

I am curious why you actually reduced the subscription fee ... I've never seen that before and I was fine paying your original rate. Not complaining, I'm just used to prices going up not the other way around.

Posted by Krux on Tuesday January 18, 2011 @ 05:23pm
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That requires you pay for a subscription to the Zork 404 error page MMO. It's a fully immerse world of text that brings level grinding for armor to the world of text adventures.

I am curious why you actually reduced the subscription fee ... I've never seen that before and I was fine paying your original rate. Not complaining, I'm just used to prices going up not the other way around.

Well you can pay the reduced subscription fee, but then you lose access to your premium items that you have collected. It's the only way we have been able to combat against the gold farmers from China.

Posted by rub on Thursday January 20, 2011 @ 09:08pm
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Well you can pay the reduced subscription fee, but then you lose access to your premium items that you have collected. It's the only way we have been able to combat against the gold farmers from China.

so fucking chinks ruined it for everyone... great

Posted by Stealth on Tuesday January 18, 2011 @ 07:35pm
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Damn farmers!

Posted by voltaic on Friday January 21, 2011 @ 07:35am
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Taking away jobs from good, hard-working AMERICANS!

Posted by Krux on Saturday January 22, 2011 @ 12:33pm
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Taking away jobs from good, hard-working AMERICANS!

You find me some Americans willing to work for 3 cents an hour, and we'll talk.

Posted by rub on Saturday January 22, 2011 @ 01:05pm
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You find me some Americans willing to work for 3 cents an hour, and we'll talk.

Actually it would have to be fore less once you factor in the various taxes the employer needs to pay into the system and healthcare.

So... more like an Amerian paying their employer $1.50 an hour (depending on state)

Posted by Caliber on Saturday January 22, 2011 @ 01:34pm
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You find me some Americans willing to work for 3 cents an hour, and we'll talk.

Actually it would have to be fore less once you factor in the various taxes the employer needs to pay into the system and healthcare.

So... more like an Amerian paying their employer $1.50 an hour (depending on state)

I always thought it was funny that government workers and military peeps had to pay taxes :)

Posted by voltaic on Monday January 24, 2011 @ 07:17am
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I've actually spent time thinking about that and the only thing I can come up with is that it's easier. Rather than having to do all this special stuff with payroll, just charge everyone according to one structure with all of its existing flaws. It makes it easy they to also add exceptions, such as making all combat-pay or hazard-pay tax free.

Posted by Caliber on Tuesday January 25, 2011 @ 10:19pm
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I've actually spent time thinking about that and the only thing I can come up with is that it's easier. Rather than having to do all this special stuff with payroll, just charge everyone according to one structure with all of its existing flaws. It makes it easy they to also add exceptions, such as making all combat-pay or hazard-pay tax free.

While I'm sure there is some perfectly illogical incomprehensible reason, I don't think ease is it. The reason I say this is that when we deploy to hazardous duty zones, we drop to a tax free status automatically. That implies that there is already a mechanism in place to do exactly that. With up to 33% of the force deployed at any given time these days, your rational, though perfectly logical, wouldn't apply, since you are portioning a section of your troops already, thereby complicating things further. The universe is spiraling towards order :o

I did hear once that it was an issue of apportioning. Since only a part of our taxes go to defense and a part goes to various government agencies (and other governmental money pots) that budgeting requires we all pay our chunk and then retrieve our dough from the correct pot-o-money. Being the non-finance guy, I can't say, but maybe that makes it more clear for you and you can fill us in...

Posted by voltaic on Friday January 28, 2011 @ 08:44am
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I did hear once that it was an issue of apportioning. Since only a part of our taxes go to defense and a part goes to various government agencies (and other governmental money pots) that budgeting requires we all pay our chunk and then retrieve our dough from the correct pot-o-money. Being the non-finance guy, I can't say, but maybe that makes it more clear for you and you can fill us in...

That makes total sense, actually.

Posted by Caliber on Saturday January 29, 2011 @ 05:22pm
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I did hear once that it was an issue of apportioning. Since only a part of our taxes go to defense and a part goes to various government agencies (and other governmental money pots) that budgeting requires we all pay our chunk and then retrieve our dough from the correct pot-o-money. Being the non-finance guy, I can't say, but maybe that makes it more clear for you and you can fill us in...

That makes total sense, actually.

I'm glad, but id still rather not pay taxes

Posted by rub on Monday January 24, 2011 @ 03:06pm
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I've actually spent time thinking about that and the only thing I can come up with is that it's easier. Rather than having to do all this special stuff with payroll, just charge everyone according to one structure with all of its existing flaws. It makes it easy they to also add exceptions, such as making all combat-pay or hazard-pay tax free.

I would be inclined to agree with you if the tax code wasn't already a gigantic complicated mess. I don't think tossing in a few extra provisions would make it that much more complicated.

Posted by voltaic on Friday January 28, 2011 @ 08:46am
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I would be inclined to agree with you if the tax code wasn't already a gigantic complicated mess. I don't think tossing in a few extra provisions would make it that much more complicated.

True also, but people get all bleary-eyed when "the troops" are mentioned. Politicians use them to score political points all the time. But the idea of apportionment (money is fungible, etc) Caliber mentioned above makes the most sense to me.

Posted by Krux on Saturday January 22, 2011 @ 05:59pm
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You find me some Americans willing to work for 3 cents an hour, and we'll talk.

Actually it would have to be fore less once you factor in the various taxes the employer needs to pay into the system and healthcare.

So... more like an Amerian paying their employer $1.50 an hour (depending on state)

I always thought it was funny that government workers and military peeps had to pay taxes :)

Yea, that one annoyed me when I was in the military as well.

Posted by Caliber on Tuesday January 25, 2011 @ 10:12pm
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You find me some Americans willing to work for 3 cents an hour, and we'll talk.

Actually it would have to be fore less once you factor in the various taxes the employer needs to pay into the system and healthcare.

So... more like an Amerian paying their employer $1.50 an hour (depending on state)

I always thought it was funny that government workers and military peeps had to pay taxes :)

Yea, that one annoyed me when I was in the military as well.

The good news is fortunately its pretty easy to collect the vast majority of it back

Posted by Stealth on Wednesday January 26, 2011 @ 06:31pm
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I always thought it was funny that government workers and military peeps had to pay taxes :)

Yea, that one annoyed me when I was in the military as well.

The good news is fortunately its pretty easy to collect the vast majority of it back

To include food stamps.. yeah for good paychecks!

Posted by Caliber on Thursday January 27, 2011 @ 10:33pm
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I always thought it was funny that government workers and military peeps had to pay taxes :)

Yea, that one annoyed me when I was in the military as well.

The good news is fortunately its pretty easy to collect the vast majority of it back

To include food stamps.. yeah for good paychecks!

I know I will be the scorn of soldiers sailors and airman everywhere when I say this, but the amount of money they pay E-1 through E-9 is directly commensurate with the responsibility and requirements assigned. Officers probably make a decent amount more than their worth, but NCOs get paid way better than they would in any other job that required a similar prior skillset and level of education.

The problem with the military is that people get whacked out when they see the actual dollars per month a serviceman earns. Unlike corporate entities, DoD doesn't advertise the job as having a "benefit package" with a dollar value attached. So what you have is an E-1 who barely scrapes $1k a month after taxes, but who gets tax-free room, tax-free meals (all of them), tax-free medical care, access to tax-free shopping and services, free travel anywhere we fly, 30 days paid vacation a year... Now sure, if you already have a family, some of that is difficult to stretch, but its a far cry better than McDonald's and all's we ask is you kill somebody once in awhile and you don't talk about getting fucked in the ass... fuck man, is that asking too much?

Posted by Krux on Friday January 28, 2011 @ 03:23pm
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The problem with the military is that people get whacked out when they see the actual dollars per month a serviceman earns. Unlike corporate entities, DoD doesn't advertise the job as having a "benefit package" with a dollar value attached. So what you have is an E-1 who barely scrapes $1k a month after taxes, but who gets tax-free room, tax-free meals (all of them), tax-free medical care, access to tax-free shopping and services, free travel anywhere we fly, 30 days paid vacation a year... Now sure, if you already have a family, some of that is difficult to stretch, but its a far cry better than McDonald's and all's we ask is you kill somebody once in awhile and you don't talk about getting fucked in the ass... fuck man, is that asking too much?

Yea, though I didn't get paid a hell of a lot when I was in the military, I wasn't hurting for money either. And hell, as an E4, I could afford to live off base in my own place. Actually lived off base as an E3, for awhile, but that was only because I had roommates, and car pooled. I didn't really eat at the mess all all that much. And hell, when I was over seas and and got the tax free pay, with nothing to spend it on, I ended up with bank.

Posted by Caliber on Saturday January 29, 2011 @ 05:21pm
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The problem with the military is that people get whacked out when they see the actual dollars per month a serviceman earns. Unlike corporate entities, DoD doesn't advertise the job as having a "benefit package" with a dollar value attached. So what you have is an E-1 who barely scrapes $1k a month after taxes, but who gets tax-free room, tax-free meals (all of them), tax-free medical care, access to tax-free shopping and services, free travel anywhere we fly, 30 days paid vacation a year... Now sure, if you already have a family, some of that is difficult to stretch, but its a far cry better than McDonald's and all's we ask is you kill somebody once in awhile and you don't talk about getting fucked in the ass... fuck man, is that asking too much?

Yea, though I didn't get paid a hell of a lot when I was in the military, I wasn't hurting for money either. And hell, as an E4, I could afford to live off base in my own place. Actually lived off base as an E3, for awhile, but that was only because I had roommates, and car pooled. I didn't really eat at the mess all all that much. And hell, when I was over seas and and got the tax free pay, with nothing to spend it on, I ended up with bank.

no doubt duder, I traveled the world on E-4 dough... hell, I did a lot more with my money as an E-grade than now. After billpay and allotments are done, my account can look pretty meager

course, you know, that's after all notes paid, Sandra and I's college, Jasmine's college fund, IRAs, TSP, blah blah blah... but still