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Posted by Stealth
on Thursday December 10, 2009 @ 07:18am |
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Posted by Stealth
on Thursday December 10, 2009 @ 08:31am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] Boy.. IW And Activision are really going to take a beating for this. ISPs are clearly in the wrong here, not the game companies. Ehh.. somewhat true. Most games have servers and the clients are all outbound. In this case, when you play this game, you might end up hosting the game and not know it, so you have inbound and outbound traffic. I understand the ISp's POV, and both companies know they should use dedicated servers, but they wanted to act like a console, but use all sorts of ports and not the normal 'x-box live' type ports. Most ISP's say you are not supposed to run a server on your service. When you host the game, you do that. "Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary? That's what gets you." - J. Clarkson |
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Posted by voltaic
on Friday December 11, 2009 @ 09:16am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] Most ISP's say you are not supposed to run a server on your service. When you host the game, you do that. I came back here to thrash you soundly concerning ISPs arbitrarily throttling based on traffic, but that's actually a good point, I hadn't thought about it that way. "Wow... that's... ZZZzzzzz" - madarab |
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Posted by Stealth
on Sunday December 13, 2009 @ 09:09am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] Most ISP's say you are not supposed to run a server on your service. When you host the game, you do that. I came back here to thrash you soundly concerning ISPs arbitrarily throttling based on traffic, but that's actually a good point, I hadn't thought about it that way. And the joy was sucked out your day. I'm sorry man. If this helps fuel your fire.. I think it is a bit of a crock that ISP's say unlimited internet, yet then have some unwritten, unknown cap and once you hit it you get a latter then the boot. I understand some limitations on tcp/25, tcp80 or tcp/443 for home users, but it would nice to be able to purchase a package, for more money, that has no such limits. And no, business class service, with slower speeds and WAY HIGHER PRICES is not the right answer. It's damn hard to find a service that won't do something like that. Maybe DSL service doesn't limit, but I haven't tried it in a while. And yes, throttling on overall user traffic might be fine, on and off, but they could also raise their overall pipe and carrier ability and not have to do it as much. "Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary? That's what gets you." - J. Clarkson |
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Posted by voltaic
on Monday December 14, 2009 @ 07:50am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] And the joy was sucked out your day. I'm sorry man. No it wasn't. Jeesh. If this helps fuel your fire.. I think it is a bit of a crock that ISP's say unlimited internet, yet then have some unwritten, unknown cap and once you hit it you get a latter then the boot. I understand some limitations on tcp/25, tcp80 or tcp/443 for home users, but it would nice to be able to purchase a package, for more money, that has no such limits. And no, business class service, with slower speeds and WAY HIGHER PRICES is not the right answer. It's damn hard to find a service that won't do something like that. Maybe DSL service doesn't limit, but I haven't tried it in a while. And yes, throttling on overall user traffic might be fine, on and off, but they could also raise their overall pipe and carrier ability and not have to do it as much. Right, my issue is with throttling when it isn't explained up front, like Caliber said. You're right that when you get an "unlimited" service and they say "no servers", well then there's no reason to bitch and that sucks for ad hoc game servers. But if that weren't an issue and you were just going to town on their bandwidth, they're just going to have to suck it up. "Wow... that's... ZZZzzzzz" - madarab |
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Posted by Krux
on Friday December 25, 2009 @ 05:35am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] And the joy was sucked out your day. I'm sorry man. No it wasn't. Jeesh. No, clearly it was. You're having a horrible, take a boot to some kittens out of spite, kind of day. I hate this place. nothing works here. the medications don't work. I've been here for seven years. I hate this place. |
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Posted by Caliber
on Sunday December 13, 2009 @ 02:51pm >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] If this helps fuel your fire.. I think it is a bit of a crock that ISP's say unlimited internet, yet then have some unwritten, unknown cap and once you hit it you get a latter then the boot. I understand some limitations on tcp/25, tcp80 or tcp/443 for home users, but it would nice to be able to purchase a package, for more money, that has no such limits. And no, business class service, with slower speeds and WAY HIGHER PRICES is not the right answer. It's damn hard to find a service that won't do something like that. Maybe DSL service doesn't limit, but I haven't tried it in a while. And yes, throttling on overall user traffic might be fine, on and off, but they could also raise their overall pipe and carrier ability and not have to do it as much. To me, bandwidth throttling is like the governor in your car. Why the fuck are you going to put 180mph on the speedometer and then cut power when I hit 120mph. Fucking bullshit lack-of-truth-in-advertising. If I buy unlimited, it should be unlimited. Otherwise advertise the actual allowance like a good little corporate fuckbag, preferably without requiring yet another fucking law to be written. This, volt, is the kind of shit I hate from business. Plain old dishonesty. I am perfectly acceptable of the bottom-line business practice, but as was discussed at length in the other thread, I fucking hate the "playing dirty" aspect of business. Though Shalt Not Lie motherfuckers All the known world, excepting only savage nations, is governed by books. --Voltaire |
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Posted by voltaic
on Monday December 14, 2009 @ 07:54am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] This, volt, is the kind of shit I hate from business. Plain old dishonesty. I am perfectly acceptable of the bottom-line business practice, but as was discussed at length in the other thread, I fucking hate the "playing dirty" aspect of business. Though Shalt Not Lie motherfuckers Me too, man. See I'm not anti-government the way some people are. I'm just generally against government doing anything but governing (thus the name) except in certain cases where they are the only qualified entity (recall "public goods" from our economics discussions). So I said all that to say: I agree that government should put laws in place to govern commerce, including equitable business practices, consumer protection, etc. "Wow... that's... ZZZzzzzz" - madarab |
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Posted by Caliber
on Monday December 14, 2009 @ 11:12am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] This, volt, is the kind of shit I hate from business. Plain old dishonesty. I am perfectly acceptable of the bottom-line business practice, but as was discussed at length in the other thread, I fucking hate the "playing dirty" aspect of business. Though Shalt Not Lie motherfuckers Me too, man. See I'm not anti-government the way some people are. I'm just generally against government doing anything but governing (thus the name) except in certain cases where they are the only qualified entity (recall "public goods" from our economics discussions). So I said all that to say: I agree that government should put laws in place to govern commerce, including equitable business practices, consumer protection, etc. Just wish it didn't HAVE to be that way in regards to fucking everyone over. It seems like current thought (an admittedly massive generalization) is to fuck everyone you can for as long as you can get away with it. Its too bad really, because it breeds hatred, justified or not, in the overall concept of "corporation." Then you have the educated and uneducated alike getting all up in arms over shit that is secondary to the base issue... Which, in my ever so humble opinion, is STOP FUCKING ME. All the known world, excepting only savage nations, is governed by books. --Voltaire |
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Posted by voltaic
on Tuesday December 15, 2009 @ 10:09am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] Just wish it didn't HAVE to be that way in regards to fucking everyone over. It seems like current thought (an admittedly massive generalization) is to fuck everyone you can for as long as you can get away with it. Its too bad really, because it breeds hatred, justified or not, in the overall concept of "corporation." Then you have the educated and uneducated alike getting all up in arms over shit that is secondary to the base issue... Which, in my ever so humble opinion, is STOP FUCKING ME. It isn't "current thought", though. It's the way things have always been. General social niceties are the exception, not the rule. As in one of my responses to Stealth's posts, you're yearning for something which would be awesome but which has never been actual. The problem is that mankind is depraved, hopeless, and thoroughly corrupt in every fiber of our very nature. It's instinctual to flip-off the asshole who cuts you off on the road, but it requires effort to ignore it and let it go. This gets into a discussion of the nature of man, sin, etc. "Wow... that's... ZZZzzzzz" - madarab |
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Posted by Caliber
on Saturday December 19, 2009 @ 07:27pm >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] Just wish it didn't HAVE to be that way in regards to fucking everyone over. It seems like current thought (an admittedly massive generalization) is to fuck everyone you can for as long as you can get away with it. Its too bad really, because it breeds hatred, justified or not, in the overall concept of "corporation." Then you have the educated and uneducated alike getting all up in arms over shit that is secondary to the base issue... Which, in my ever so humble opinion, is STOP FUCKING ME. It isn't "current thought", though. It's the way things have always been. General social niceties are the exception, not the rule. As in one of my responses to Stealth's posts, you're yearning for something which would be awesome but which has never been actual. The problem is that mankind is depraved, hopeless, and thoroughly corrupt in every fiber of our very nature. It's instinctual to flip-off the asshole who cuts you off on the road, but it requires effort to ignore it and let it go. This gets into a discussion of the nature of man, sin, etc. can't we all just get along? I personally love the concept of beating the shit out of something and getting candy in return... Pure Genius |
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Posted by Krux
on Thursday December 10, 2009 @ 10:27am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] Boy.. IW And Activision are really going to take a beating for this. ISPs are clearly in the wrong here, not the game companies. Ehh.. somewhat true. Most games have servers and the clients are all outbound. In this case, when you play this game, you might end up hosting the game and not know it, so you have inbound and outbound traffic. I understand the ISp's POV, and both companies know they should use dedicated servers, but they wanted to act like a console, but use all sorts of ports and not the normal 'x-box live' type ports. Most ISP's say you are not supposed to run a server on your service. When you host the game, you do that. That's just a bad design in my opinion. If you're hosting a game you should know about it. Can you at least turn off the option to host a game? "There's a long-standing bug relating to the x86 architecture that allows you to install Windows." -- Matthew D. Fuller |
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Posted by unicron
on Thursday December 10, 2009 @ 03:41pm >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] Boy.. IW And Activision are really going to take a beating for this. ISPs are clearly in the wrong here, not the game companies. Ehh.. somewhat true. Most games have servers and the clients are all outbound. In this case, when you play this game, you might end up hosting the game and not know it, so you have inbound and outbound traffic. I understand the ISp's POV, and both companies know they should use dedicated servers, but they wanted to act like a console, but use all sorts of ports and not the normal 'x-box live' type ports. Most ISP's say you are not supposed to run a server on your service. When you host the game, you do that. That's just a bad design in my opinion. If you're hosting a game you should know about it. Can you at least turn off the option to host a game? No, you have no control over it. That said, the lack of dedicated servers make baby Jesus cry. I beat single player on it in < 6 hours, then moved on. To Dragon Age: Origins, which is probably the best single player game I've played in years. -unicron He will do one of two things He will admit to everything Or he'll say he's just not the same And you'll begin to wonder why you came |
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Posted by Stealth
on Sunday December 13, 2009 @ 09:12am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] Boy.. IW And Activision are really going to take a beating for this. ISPs are clearly in the wrong here, not the game companies. Ehh.. somewhat true. Most games have servers and the clients are all outbound. In this case, when you play this game, you might end up hosting the game and not know it, so you have inbound and outbound traffic. I understand the ISp's POV, and both companies know they should use dedicated servers, but they wanted to act like a console, but use all sorts of ports and not the normal 'x-box live' type ports. Most ISP's say you are not supposed to run a server on your service. When you host the game, you do that. That's just a bad design in my opinion. If you're hosting a game you should know about it. Can you at least turn off the option to host a game? No, you have no control over it. That said, the lack of dedicated servers make baby Jesus cry. I beat single player on it in < 6 hours, then moved on. To Dragon Age: Origins, which is probably the best single player game I've played in years. And to make it worse, you never know if you are hosting or not. The only time you know you are not hosting is when the host drops from teh game and everyone has to wait for 30 seconds to find another server. The multilayer is still tight, don't let unicron fool you, but not being able to play at hosted servers is ghey. When playing with some friends back in the states, it takes a number of minutes to finally find a server/game that we can play at that works for everyone. It's weak. I did see this today, found it funny. I had never though about this.. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/96812-Gamer-Petitions-Infinity-Ward-for-Colour-Blind-Option-in-Modern-Warfare-2 "One such game is Infinity Ward's Modern Warfare 2, which uses red and green to differentiate between friend and foe. As red-green color-blindness is the most common form, this makes the game almost impossible to play effectively." "It's 'Eh', you tard." - Ghostalker |
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Posted by Caliber
on Sunday December 13, 2009 @ 02:56pm >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] "One such game is Infinity Ward's Modern Warfare 2, which uses red and green to differentiate between friend and foe. As red-green color-blindness is the most common form, this makes the game almost impossible to play effectively." Just great, next thing you know the retards will want to play FPSes too... Fuckers need to stick with what they are good at, like gluing their fingers together and accidentally killing small animals and shit Save your breath, you'll need it to inflate your date |
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Posted by Stealth
on Friday December 25, 2009 @ 02:20am >> [ reply ][ rating +1 ] "One such game is Infinity Ward's Modern Warfare 2, which uses red and green to differentiate between friend and foe. As red-green color-blindness is the most common form, this makes the game almost impossible to play effectively." Just great, next thing you know the retards will want to play FPSes too... Fuckers need to stick with what they are good at, like gluing their fingers together and accidentally killing small animals and shit Yummmy.. paste! "Stuff sold by the gram is always going to be more exciting than stuff sold by the pound" - J. Clarkson |
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Posted by Caliber
on Tuesday December 29, 2009 @ 07:23pm >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] "One such game is Infinity Ward's Modern Warfare 2, which uses red and green to differentiate between friend and foe. As red-green color-blindness is the most common form, this makes the game almost impossible to play effectively." Just great, next thing you know the retards will want to play FPSes too... Fuckers need to stick with what they are good at, like gluing their fingers together and accidentally killing small animals and shit Yummmy.. paste! awesome... I personally love the concept of beating the shit out of something and getting candy in return... Pure Genius |
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Posted by MadArab
on Thursday December 10, 2009 @ 07:24am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] The problem seems to stem from the way in which IW.net utilizes a connection to handle online gaming. ISPs have no idea an account is playing MW2 and just see activity that looks like a virus infection, or excessive file sharing. As well as warning letters some gamers have had their connection speeds throttled and others are having to pay additional costs on their regular bill." Wow... that's dumb! Speaking of Virus infections, for some reason I have Symantec Corp at work on Win 7 reporting a a bunch of my pictures as being infected with Bloodhound.Exploit13. The same images are on multiple machines (shared via Dropbox), with the same AV, but only the Win7 box is getting crazy alerts. ??? Oddball shit. Yes, London. You know: fish, chips, cup 'o tea, bad food, worse weather, Mary fucking Poppins... LONDON. |
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Posted by Stealth
on Thursday December 10, 2009 @ 07:29am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] The problem seems to stem from the way in which IW.net utilizes a connection to handle online gaming. ISPs have no idea an account is playing MW2 and just see activity that looks like a virus infection, or excessive file sharing. As well as warning letters some gamers have had their connection speeds throttled and others are having to pay additional costs on their regular bill." Wow... that's dumb! Speaking of Virus infections, for some reason I have Symantec Corp at work on Win 7 reporting a a bunch of my pictures as being infected with Bloodhound.Exploit13. The same images are on multiple machines (shared via Dropbox), with the same AV, but only the Win7 box is getting crazy alerts. ??? Oddball shit. Humm.. I've started using Nod32 at home. I really like it. In your case, it looks like it could be something in the way the windows viewer is handling the file? Is the Symantec DAT that latest? Maybe a bad DAT? It's probably a false positive, but it could be that the viewer is using web based libraries and that's causing it. "Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary? That's what gets you." - J. Clarkson |
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Posted by MadArab
on Thursday December 10, 2009 @ 09:32am >> [ reply ][ rating +0 ] Humm.. I've started using Nod32 at home. I really like it. In your case, it looks like it could be something in the way the windows viewer is handling the file? Is the Symantec DAT that latest? Maybe a bad DAT? It's probably a false positive, but it could be that the viewer is using web based libraries and that's causing it. It's all up to date... not sure what the deal is. All jpg's too. Seems to be random splutterings about it on the net too. You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity. |